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May 1, 2008 at 9:50 AM EST
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PROVIDENCE — Centuries after the State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations was founded, lawmakers say it may be time for a name change.
The word “plantation” that sits precariously on the end of the state’s lengthy title is offensive to many in the African-American community because it conjures up images of slavery, they say.
For more than an hour yesterday, black leaders and state legislators encouraged the House Finance Committee to place a question on November’s election ballot asking whether voters want to change the state’s official name to simply Rhode Island.
“What we see, what we know, what we experience is the hardship of that word,” said Rep. Anastasia Williams, D-Providence.
Providence resident Barry O’Connor Jr. said it saddens him to have to explain to his 10-year-old son that he lives in a state with a name so closely associated with such historical pain and suffering.
But House Finance Committee member Carol Mumford, R-Scituate, questioned the need for change given the arc of history.
Yes, the word “plantation” today is most closely associated with Southern slavery, but in Colonial days when the title first emerged, plantation referred to a farm or a settlement, much like the Christmas tree plantation in Scituate where she now lives.
Other committee members said the bill raises certain moral questions.
“By taking the word [plantation] out do you not actually increase the blindness to history?” House Finance Chairman Steven M. Costantino asked. “…I’m wondering if we’re putting the state into a state of denial by taking [that part of the name] away.”
Progresso Latino President Ramon Martinez and it’s one thing to remember the past; it’s another to have to look at it every time you look at your driver’s license or your college diploma.
“It’s morally reprehensible, politically offensive and economically exploitive,” Martinez said.
Testifying in opposition to the bill Johnston resident Kathleen Gudaitis said she believes a name change won’t change the past.
This is not the first time the Assembly has wrestled with the question of Rhode Island’s awkwardly worded name.
In 2000, then-Rep. David N. Cicilline led a hard charge to see “plantation” dropped from the official name.
That proposal died in committee.
Yesterday’s committee voted to hold the legislation for further study, but Costantino said the debate will likely continue. “I’m open to further discussion on the bill,” he said.
Williams and the primary sponsor, Joseph S. Almeida, D-Providence, emphasized that they’re not pushing for mandatory change –– and they aren’t proposing tearing down buildings already emblazoned with the current name –– they just want to put the matter before the voters to let them decide what to call their state going forward.
Later yesterday afternoon, after hours of testimony on a string of unrelated bills, the House Finance Committee moved on to one final bill that proposed doing something that supporters say is already required under a 1997 consent agreement between the state’s Department of Human Services and the federal government: offer interpreter services to DHS clients who need them.
The bill follows Governor Carcieri’s decision late last year to cut several state interpreter jobs at the DHS. Sponsor Elizabeth Dennigan, D-East Providence, said the purpose of the legislation was to raise awareness of the law and prod the state into complying with it.
One after another, members of the Southeast Asian community testified about the importance of interpreters in immigrant communities like theirs.
Yut Yang, 25, broke down as she recalled having to translate for her non-English speaking parents as a child.
In a last-minute rush before the afternoon session was to begin, the Finance Committee voted to hold the measure.
Meanwhile with little discussion, the full Senate yesterday voted 33 to 3 to eliminate mandatory minimum sentences for drug offenders, restoring judicial discretion in the sentencing for some drug-related crimes.
Supporters including the sponsor, Sen. Harold Metts, D-Providence, said the proposal does not make Rhode Island soft on crime, but rather allows for more flexibility when it’s time to penalize a person.
Identical legislation in the House is set for a floor vote sometime next week.
The Assembly first passed the mandatory minimum proposal last session, but the measure was vetoed by the governor.
cneedham@projo.com
Tuesday, May 13 at 8:22 PM Ted, Hilton Head, SC wrote ...
Here we go again, the secular progressives want to rewrite history. I was born and grew up in Rhode Island and the "The State of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations" is part of my family's history. If it's changed they may as well change Providence (God's care and guidance) too, since it may offend athiests. Is there anyone with common sense left up there?
Monday, May 12 at 12:58 PM Concerned wrote ...
To address JSD’s question. I can think of Dole Plantation, Hawaii, Plimoth Plantation, MA. & Plantation, FL. All peoples can pick a word from history and claim offensive connotations: indentured servants, Lord, & Manor for Europeans, railroad for Asians, Alamo for Mexicans & Reservations for Native Americans. This issue is just another excuse for the squandering of the opportunities the civil rights movement fought for; similarly as Bill Cosby pointed on in a recent speech.
Friday, May 9 at 10:49 AM JSD wrote ...
It is the connotations of the word "plantation" beyond is Webster's definition that is offensive. Quite often than not it is the connotation of words that get engrained in the psyche of individuals and it is those connotations that become perpetually offensive. Most literary, historical, and theatrical depictions of a "plantation" conjure up images similar to "Gone with the Wind" in the eyes of blacks. When was the last representation of a plantation that did not depict slavery? PROBABLY NONE
Wednesday, May 7 at 9:38 PM TC (part 1) wrote ...
Ramon Martinez should have his efforts focused on more important issues. The thousands of dollars, which would cost, would be better spent on social programs, education, job training and economic relief for those in need. His main focus is obviously publicity and not the good of the state. Rhode Island has a great history, has been and is a melting pot of peoples and cultures. Embrace the past and present, and only worry about the future.
Tuesday, May 6 at 1:10 PM Ted (Part 2) wrote ...
Not one person, alive today, is responsible for slavery having happened. It was the unfortunate way of the world for thousands of years, effecting many races of peoples. As horrible as it was, slavery integrated the world to the diversity that it has today. Not just during American colonial times. Yes, plantations were the place where many slaves were forced to work in this country, in the south. We cannot bury our past, nor be afraid of a single word or the connotation thereof.
Monday, May 5 at 11:42 AM pat regan pawtucket ri wrote ...
I want to change the name of Plymouth Plantation to Plymouth-world.
Sunday, May 4 at 8:34 AM Michelle wrote ...
notice that not one comment here agree's with this change intresting , where are the handfull of people that are making a stink over this how much longer are we as americans going to allow the small minority to run our country ?????? we need to stand united and say enough
Sunday, May 4 at 8:17 AM michelle wrote ...
I dont think we should change it it is the name of our state with its history good or bad it is not going to change our history with all of the problems the people in this state are facing why are we wasting time and money on this?????
Saturday, May 3 at 11:52 AM dee s. kingstown wrote ...
I think we should change the state's motto. With all that is going on, and now this, RI certainly has become "Hopeless"
Friday, May 2 at 8:53 PM Lorri Providence wrote ...
This is our history and our name. We should not touch it. We have so many important issues to discuss and this is what we are talking about. If you are offended by the name there are 50 other states you can move to.
Friday, May 2 at 5:30 PM Linda Sandoval wrote ...
It is very easy to say stop crying about the word "plantation" if you have never had to suffer through racism. Yes, it does exist. Miniorties still fear that there is racism in the eyes of all authority. That fear wants to be settled by eliminating certain words or pictures. Then there is no way this fear will ever be settled.
Friday, May 2 at 5:16 PM Jay Lewis North Kingstown wrote ...
This is the most ridiculous thing to discuss when the whole State is in a financial crisis. Look at the meaning of "Plantation". No where does it refer to minitories. There are too many responses to minor issues and no attention being paid to major issues.
Friday, May 2 at 2:55 PM CH, Cumberland wrote ...
That fact that this is even being discussed at this time...is why I drink!
Friday, May 2 at 2:50 PM Cheryl wrote ...
I have a LOT of other things to worry about first. Have you heard there is a war?
Friday, May 2 at 12:20 PM Ilias A. Arsenis wrote ...
I think it's time to move on from all this racism and aknowledge that Providence was an actual working Plantation. History cannot be erased, but learned from. Furthermore it was worked by more than just Afro-Americans; there were other immigrants of various ethnic backgrounds. The 350,000 dollars that it will cost to change the name, maybe can be used to improve the school system or go to the homeless.
Friday, May 2 at 11:50 AM Matt Zablocki wrote ...
I dont think the name is offensive at all. people need to get over what happened a few hundred years ago. I mean bad enough were in a money crisis as it is, and they want to blow more of it on such a ridiculous thing. We honestly way more important things to worry about.
Friday, May 2 at 9:35 AM Chris from Warwick wrote ...
You know what's offensive to me? People living today not honoring the sacrifices made by past civil rights leaders by hiding behind past oppressions and offenses rather than focusing on how to better tackle the very problems that propagate all the negative stereotypes that plague their community. Equality was earned by the slaves and those who fought for it back in the 60's, those who made true sacrifice. But can equality be garnered through the removal of the word plantation? Not a sacrifice.
Friday, May 2 at 7:30 AM Jalani wrote ...
I have two things to say 1.) Look up the meaning to “Plantation” – it says nothing about slavery of any thing of such sort. Plantations - an early method of colonization in which settlers were 'planted' abroad in order to establish a permanent or semi-permanent colonial base. 2.) Your great, great, great family member was a victim of slavery – stop acting like it affected you because you know it didn’t. J
Friday, May 2 at 6:32 AM Bobby B from Hope RI wrote ...
Plantation (settlement or colony) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Plantation was an early method of colonization in which settlers were 'planted' abroad in order to establish a permanent or semi-permanent colonial base. The intent of the word in the State title was not placed there to insult or injure anyone. It is a major part of the history of the state; in fact it is the very beginning of our history and should remain as is.
Friday, May 2 at 6:13 AM Paulette wrote ...
Leave things alone. I don't beleive this state. There are way more important things going on in life without worrying about a name. I think some people have little to do with there time. There are people every day getting laid off & high prices of everying from gas to heating your home, food prices, THE WAR & this person is worried about a name? Get over it. You don't like it leave.
Friday, May 2 at 5:50 AM Joe, Cranston wrote ...
Looks like everyone is n agreement on this one. I agree with what j Costa from EP said "god didn't stop using the word devil, he just made the devil leave. if you don't like our name then PLEASE leave". The only other thing I would say is that everyone seems to think that our legislators need to tend to more important issues (which they do!!). I say that if you legislator is not doing the job you expect of them, vote for someone else, and get rid of the dead weight in the General Assembly.
Friday, May 2 at 5:31 AM J.Medeiros, Johnston wrote ...
It's time to stop dwelling on "political correctness", and for all Americans as a society to start working on solutions for the real issues we face together. These types of complaints about words or certain language only serve to divide us and distract us from issues that effect the lives of all citizens.
Thursday, May 1 at 11:33 PM P.Adams, Providence wrote ...
Attack (sic) sorry for the typo. :-) This is yet again an attempt to keep the race angst alive for the benefit of all those "community leaders", advocates and politico's who derive a living (read that "Paycheck") from making themselves look good. I would suspect over half of the anger expressed by the non-minority community is over the fact that the "race card" is forever thrown up in our faces. I suspect if everyone would shut up about it, it would become a non-issue. Get a grip, and move on.
Thursday, May 1 at 10:39 PM Len NP. wrote ...
Leave it alone, We have enough problems in our state that are alot more important. Let's see budget issues 150,000,000.00 in the red, laying off state workers, raising fines, raising taxes,,,, so lets spend $350,000.00 to put this question on the ballot to see if we want to change our name. What will we think of next?
Thursday, May 1 at 10:17 PM Brendan Hanlon, Providence wrote ...
I think the people that are upset about this need a hobby.
Thursday, May 1 at 6:16 PM jon wrote ...
this ia a bad idea that is just trying to distract people from the real issues the state faces
Thursday, May 1 at 6:05 PM P. Adams, Providence wrote ...
Absolutely Not! Not only is this an attach on the history that defines us, but also a shameless attempt at distracting us from the most important topics like the imminent state bankrupsy and the lawless attacks against United States values and the law itself. I find it amazing that our state legislators find time for this trivial nonsense. It's time these legislators get down to doing the peoples business and stop pandering to the profesional victims and their advocates; or get out.
Thursday, May 1 at 5:24 PM mp, middletown wrote ...
I think I need to run for office, because all they seem to do is argue or debate wasteful issues. maybe someone should remind them about the $ problems we are having now..schools, better gov leaders, or something worth while to talk about? good thing newport grand is open 24 hours
Thursday, May 1 at 4:10 PM Lauren wrote ...
This state doesn't have enough money as it is and they want to waste tax payers money on a foolish thing such as a state name change. I think it's rediculous and unnecessary, and there are much more important things to worry about than that.
Thursday, May 1 at 4:08 PM Jenna wrote ...
I am so tired of hearing what is offensive to African Americans, I am sorry but we are all Americans. I am so tired of us having to change things because someone gets offened by something that was said or written. Everyone needs to GROW UP!! What happened to our ancestory happened to them not us. STOP CODLING THEM!!!
Thursday, May 1 at 3:48 PM jwc wrote ...
god didn't stop using the word devil, he just made the devil leave. if you don't like our name then PLEASE leave. j costa e prov
Thursday, May 1 at 3:41 PM Mary Catanzaro Johnston wrote ...
History is the defiition of what happened at a particular period in time. We are supposed to learn from it and move forward. Plantations should remain its a word depicted history that that most of the people never experienced.
Thursday, May 1 at 3:37 PM Jerry wrote ...
Tell the offended politicians to get a dictionary and look up the word plantation. If they can't read, I'll offer to read it to them. There is no mention of slavery.
Thursday, May 1 at 3:34 PM Kathryn Carberry, Cranston ,RI wrote ...
What offends me is ignorance. Plantations doesn't refer to any slavery . The name was in place long before any Africans were transported to our shores. Perhaps time, money would be better spent upon education with the emphasis on history, not the revisionist view either. In other words , find a real problem and deal with it . Fix the economy , unemployment, high taxes, not waste more time on nonsense. Perhaps if you removed that chip from your shoulders you could see more clearly. Get over it.
Thursday, May 1 at 3:32 PM cam wrote ...
This is a foolish waste of time and the people responsible for this should be ashamed of how they are spending their time...especially when, from the same report, 'members of the Southeast Asian community testified about the importance of interpreters in immigrant communities...Yut Yang, 25, broke down as she recalled having to translate for her non-English speaking parents as a child" Now YUT, dry your tears,teach the others in your neighborhood to speak English, and help them become citizens.
Thursday, May 1 at 3:22 PM Zallee wrote ...
Get over it - what is wrong with this world - it's history - it can't be undone by changing a name and people have to stop all this nonsense good grief what will be next??? why can't we all just try and do right for today and forget what happened yesterday - we need peace not more turmoil and I am really getting tired of this black vs white, white vs black, give it up! You are creating more problems then ever before.
Thursday, May 1 at 3:22 PM Patric wrote ...
Its just a dumb issue. Its the states name and has been and it shouldn't change. The Plantations in the name had nothing to do with slavery. Please lets focus on real honest to god issues!
Thursday, May 1 at 3:19 PM Kathleen wrote ...
I am so sick of hearing about color I swear it is the goverment that makes issues of such things. I can say I don't and never have looked at anyone and made judgements based on race, color, sex or Religion. People we need to stick together no matter where we come from and once we do that maybe our Goverment officials would be working for us. We need to stand as one so they hear all of us not just some of us. Get over it we are all HUMAN we are not a COLOR!
Thursday, May 1 at 3:15 PM Michael, West Warwick wrote ...
We can't change something everytime someone get's offended!This is part of our state's history!
Thursday, May 1 at 3:12 PM StacyP wrote ...
I think in a time when we are cutting daycare and other well needed programs, to waste money changing part of history is ridiculous. I do not think the word is offensive, what I find offensive is a group of people..no matter race, religion, or orientation feels that in this time of inflation, to try and force more needless state spending. Look at the REAL issues that need attention!
Thursday, May 1 at 3:11 PM Laurie Cary, Coventry wrote ...
With all the financial problems this state is facing, this is not a priority issue to waste more taxpayer dollars on. Let's get down to some serious issues here!
Thursday, May 1 at 2:50 PM Lita Jones wrote ...
Get over it, there is more important things to worry about.
Thursday, May 1 at 2:22 PM JT wrote ...
Dump the Rhode Island name and merge with Massachusetts as one state
Thursday, May 1 at 2:16 PM Catherine wrote ...
I agree with Jack Telley, seriously get a life. I think are a lot of bigger issues out there that need to be solved than this. Let go of the past, you would think that it happened like 5 years ago.
Thursday, May 1 at 1:52 PM Richard wrote ...
I'd bet most people didn't know the word plantation was even there until yesterday. All these leaders did was stir up controversy and waste tax payer's money.
Thursday, May 1 at 12:25 PM Don L. wrote ...
I can't believe this is even an issue with this state. There are so many big problems that need addressing that we are going to focus our attention on this. Ever check the Origin of Name Rhode Island: When Dutch explorer Adrian block discovered an island with red clay shores he named it Roodt Eylandt, meaning “red island.” Now called Rhode Island. Ever seen a red island in Rhode Island. Lets get real and start delaing with the problems and leave the name alone.
Thursday, May 1 at 12:02 PM My opinion wrote ...
I have to agree with Chris and Jack here. This is alot of effort, alot of time and alot of emotion that could be better placed on a real issue.
Thursday, May 1 at 11:57 AM Dennis wrote ...
You know, schools need to bring back George Orwell's "1984" as required reading. It seems folks have forgotten what that fictional government brought about by eliminating words...
Thursday, May 1 at 11:40 AM Nikki, SK wrote ...
This is comical. People need to let go of the past; it's situations like this that keeps racism alive, and causes some Americans to question their own views on race. The majority of African-Americans are slaves to the past, and that's a terrible way to live your life. Move on, everybody.
Thursday, May 1 at 11:28 AM paul koczwanski west warwick wrote ...
I'm offended by people trying to change the name of MY state. If they don't like the name, LEAVE ! There are 49 other states to choose from. We are the smallest state with the biggest name. And should remain so. Rhode Island is a great state with tons of history. Leave my state alone or just plain leave.
Thursday, May 1 at 10:58 AM Chris, NP wrote ...
I think there are much more inportant issues to argue about than this. This is beyond stupid, what's next Irish people telling Notre Dame to stop calling themselve's the Fighting Irish?
Thursday, May 1 at 10:13 AM Jack Telley, Cranston wrote ...
Get a life. If we continue to change everything because someone finds it offensive then soon we will have no communication at all. The word plantation means FARM. Not all farms or plantations had slaves, the word is perfectly legitimate. If African Americans find this offensive then do we need to remove cotton, tobacco and other crops from the dictionary as well as daily life. GROW UP. Everyone needs to move on and deal with today, stop being a victim of the past.
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